tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9064021843006104287.post1098657542693774364..comments2024-03-21T00:36:25.893-07:00Comments on Breastfeeding Without BS: White elephants in the freezer: The pros and cons of breastmilk stashesBFwithoutBShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14311113448295882286noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9064021843006104287.post-30189690374700855582022-06-22T01:43:29.272-07:002022-06-22T01:43:29.272-07:00Your words of interest in this article almost matc...Your words of interest in this article almost match my own thoughts. This article is really commendable. I liked this post very much. Thank you very much for sharing such posts.<br /><a href="https://stocktwits.com/amitsingh404" rel="nofollow">engineering colleges in Dehradun</a><br />ADMINhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15857678683276899904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9064021843006104287.post-5177438068351077522017-04-06T21:03:34.848-07:002017-04-06T21:03:34.848-07:00I'm a mother who has fed my daughter only fres...I'm a mother who has fed my daughter only fresh bm since she was 10 weeks old and have never worried big about my supple I do pump 5 times a day when she was younger 3 times at work in a 8 hour shift and once in the morning and right on my commute back to work I do have a freezer stash that I have never used and donated to other babies my body responds well to my pump and I've always kept up with my daughters need I believe every baby is different and fed is always best my daughter hasn't really liked my frozen breastmilk either but took the frozen milk fine at one and a half monthsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12770825581526507669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9064021843006104287.post-85297070575100750382014-05-18T20:15:44.179-07:002014-05-18T20:15:44.179-07:00Hi Tipper. Thanks for your comment. I think I didn...Hi Tipper. Thanks for your comment. I think I didn't express myself really clearly in my post--my meaning was not so much "Women who WOH and do not have freezer stashes invariably need to use formula" but more "They may need to use formula, so they should be prepared." The reality is that while simply pumping the next day's output "fresh" each and every day may be possible for some women, for a lot of women it is just not possible, at least not all the time. Women vary in terms of how well they respond to the pump, there are limits to how many pumping breaks one can get even at an accommodating workplace, and then there is the possibility of getting to work and realizing you've forgotten your pump (or getting home and realizing your bottles of milk are in the workplace freezer). If a woman is really really against using formula at all but does not have a freezer stash, she risks getting into a really stressful situation (fanatically counting every ml she pumps, interrogating the childcare provider about every last bottle, trying to fit in extra pumping sessions at ungodly times of the evening or night etc.). I've seen some women get into a right state this way.BFwithoutBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14311113448295882286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9064021843006104287.post-1633292500618233802014-05-15T09:34:21.906-07:002014-05-15T09:34:21.906-07:00I wrote something similar in December - http://www...I wrote something similar in December - http://www.theboobgeek.com/blog/down-with-the-freezer-stash.html. One point I think is overlooked is that if you're giving milk from a freezer stash - just as if you were giving formula - to supplement what you're pumping, you're upsetting that supply-and-demand balance. If your baby is used to taking in 18 ounces when you're away at work and you "only" pump a (very common and reasonable) 12 ounces, you'll likely never catch up with that. Pumping output gradually decreases, and I consider it a best practice to feed the baby about as much as you pump each day (subject to some individual fluctuations, of course). <br /><br />For this reason, I disagree that if you don't want a stash you have to be okay with giving formula. Babies can drink what you pump. You might need to use formula in those cases when you have a baby under six months old who hasn't started solids and you forgot your pumped milk at work or something of that sort, but there's also no rule that a stash needs to be huge. Really, the problem isn't the idea of freezer stashes, period, but enormous freezer stashes. No one needs 100 ounces by the time they return to work.Tipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13319045019352278327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9064021843006104287.post-50766917270701420012013-10-23T20:09:42.652-07:002013-10-23T20:09:42.652-07:00I like used the ready-to-feed liquid formula too--...I like used the ready-to-feed liquid formula too--I used it for mixing cereal when I was on visit in the UK, but sadly, this is not available in Japan so once I was back here I pumped if I wanted to mix her cereal with anything; making up a load of powdered formula just for cereal seemed so much hassle. I did have a tin of powdered formula and had a go at giving Baby Seal some in a cup at around 7mo--I thought it might fill her tummy up a bit before bedtime--but she wouldn't really swallow more than a tiny amount. Oh well. <br /><br />Re: using food instead of milk after 6mo of age: my understanding is that the main source of nourishment until the baby is close to 12mo should be breastmilk or formula, especially since most babies take some time to increase their solid food intake. I know Jack Newman argues that babies can be given cow's milk plus solids after 6mo, but honestly, I think he says this because he really really really doesn't want mothers to use formula or contribute to formula company revenues. Overreliance on cow's milk at too early an age can cause nutritional imbalances, so I think if a WOH mother wants to pump less, she needs to be OK with using formula to make up the difference.BFwithoutBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14311113448295882286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9064021843006104287.post-24752037448158506002013-10-22T20:24:17.755-07:002013-10-22T20:24:17.755-07:00I think there's another element that can be co...I think there's another element that can be considered: not worrying about it after 6 months! Dr Jack Newman is of the opinion that no baby needs formula after 6 months anyway, as they can be given a sufficient diet through solids at that stage. I felt a bit odd at this advice (we did baby led weaning for solids and my little one was certainly not eating much at 6 months) but if you're doing purées in line with current guidelines (ie everything and anything from 6 months - don't wait unless there's a history of allergies) it does make some sense. Certainly the idea of meat and veg puréed rather than high fructose corn syrup is appealing.<br /><br />I think it's like the idea of EBM in sippy cups. I thought I'd be that mum, expressing after 12 months but not feeding because that's just gross. Of course, now we're still breastfeeding at almost 15 months old and I have no plans to stop. Plus, once I realised my open system Medela Swing might have mould in it, I couldn't be bothered pumping at all. (I pumped for a whole month when my son was 4 months so I could give him a bottle with reflux meds. It made zip difference so I stopped).<br /><br />I do think that advising mums to have formula on hand and give some to baby so they will accept it is faulty though. If its an emergency, it's an emergency and the baby probably will eat. I say that as one who bought 500ml of ready prepared liquid newborn formula and typed up instructions for my husband on how to cup or syringe feed (as we had no bottles at the time). I did that when my son was 6 weeks old and I realised if I did get hit by a bus that my husband wouldn't have a clue what to do (never having worried about it before) and I wanted to buy him some time to find out from a nurse how to feed a baby if I wasn't going to be around. I was pleased to throw it out when I found it in the cupboard months later. Anyway my point was that that's a known booby trap (I love that description - hate that Best for Babes trademarked it) and should only be encouraged for true emergencies. Just like anyone relying on formula should have formula and safe water stockpiled in case of emergency.<br /><br />(Sorry for the novel)MummyFishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02056128299264012492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9064021843006104287.post-35758667691630635722013-10-05T01:04:19.220-07:002013-10-05T01:04:19.220-07:00I didn't like TWAOB either--I've no idea w...I didn't like TWAOB either--I've no idea why it's so damn popular.<br /><br />Regarding the lipase issue--actually, you are quite right, it seems to be one of those things that depends on the baby; I've heard some babies will swallow lipase-y milk without complaint, and if they will do so, no need to scald the milk, as the lipase levels don't do the baby any harm in themselves. One thing I didn't cover in the post is that scalding milk further reduces the nutritional and immunological benefits of the milk. If mothers can get away with not scalding, so much the better. Perhaps the best advice of all would be "Create two batches, scald one, don't scald the other, taste them alongside, AND THEN offer them both to the baby... if one tastes fishy BUT the baby seems to be okay with it, you don't need to scald the milk (hooray!)."BFwithoutBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14311113448295882286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9064021843006104287.post-7457782555381939292013-10-04T20:03:15.055-07:002013-10-04T20:03:15.055-07:00I definitely have lipase issues - sometimes my mil...I definitely have lipase issues - sometimes my milk smells metallic even when I am pumping it or feeding baby the more direct way. But the baby has never ever complained about the taste of fresh, refrigerated, or frozen, and she's six months old. So I don't know that I believe you will HAVE to scald if you have lipase issues. Aside from that quibble, though, I think this was a great post, highlighting the weird competitive hoarding that seems to overtake some women when saving milk. It surely doesn't help when the W art of B suggests that probably you should consider part time work rather than formula, since maybe once you factor in gas, tolls, and clothes, you probably don't make enough money to justify working. No wonder some women engage in competitive bf, they feel guilty they want or need to go back to work and must prove they are still loving mothers by collecting evidence of their commitment to "breast is best."Kate Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05561241646255479635noreply@blogger.com